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The White Plague txt The White Plague, text ebook The White Plague, adobe reader The White Plague, chapter 2 The White Plague, The White Plague 58b32b The White Plague, A Marvelous And Terrifyingly Plausible Blend Of Fiction And Visionary Theme, Tells Of One Man Who Is Pushed Over The Edge Of Sanity By The Senseless Murder Of His Family And Who, Reappearing Several Months Later As The So Called Madman, Unleashes A Terrible Plague Upon The Human Race One That Zeros In, Unerringly And Fatally, On Women


10 thoughts on “The White Plague

  1. says:

    Man, this was a harrowing read Made all the so because of its plausibility I don t know if the science was up to it at the time the book was written but the titular plague, which is carried by males unsymptomatically but kills all females, is than possible today Terrifying.The book is very well written and engaging but I did have a couple of grumbles, the first being that Herbert utilises national stereotypes quite a bit, which was a bit irritating He also clearly HATES the British with a passion, which I tried very hard not to take personally but it occasionally irked The thought I paid good money for your book, mate, stop being such a douche crossed my mind than once.Overall, though, this was a cracking read and I recommend it to fans of speculative fiction hard SF , thrillers and even horror It defies genre classification, really It ll definitely give me nightmares, though.


  2. says:

    Frustrating Herbert is great at big ideas and thoroughly thinking them through, showing how each and every aspect of life and society might be impacted see Dune This novel has another great idea, that of a man made pandemic It delves even deeper than a typical end of the world story, though, by setting the villian and a few other characters on a long, quiet walk through what s left of Ireland, showing how the plague has warped life He also manages to show how Ireland is so immersed in its own distant past, and how these plague times will similarly be mythologized, and how that might be both good and bad.It is frustrating because the execution and characterization leave much to be desired Some characters and conversations are so stilted as to literally make you laugh out loud or cringe, depending on your temper And some huge, obvious questions are left basically untouched In a world where there are tens of thousands of men for every woman, what place does homosexuality take in this new order Do women become revered and have power Or do they become slaves Then, as one of his final ways to wrap up the story, Herbert resorts to the putting the villian on trial literally cliche It was pretty laughable.If you like big ideas and can deal with a seriously flawed book, read it If you frustrate easily, skip this one.


  3. says:

    I actually prefer this book to Herbert s legendary Dune Why Because it speaks in and of a world I live in Not cience fiction in the bastardized form we see today, but a true speculative fiction page turner A well written story of bio terrorism that gets out of hand that not only deals with the detective story of how to stop the plague, but what effects will society and politics see out of it as the targeted disease breaks out of the Middle East and ravages all corners of the world I am gratified that there has not been a badly made Hollywood filming of this, I am not sure four hours and a box of popcorn could do it justice.


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    I absolutely loved this book I already knew Herbert was a master of the genre, a man that has achieved in writing few have achieved, and I knew he wrote the Dune series, but when I took The White Plague off the shelve, I really didn t make the connection between Frank Herbert the author of this book, and THE Frank Herbert Good thing I realised it at the middle of the book, when I took another look to see who wrote this amazing story, and I was like oh now it makes sense now you tell me Of course, the plot is really good This guy s wife and children, O Neill s, are blown up by an IRA bomb, on May 20, 1996 He immediatelly goes insane, and his mind shatters into different personalities, from which one is a mad man that is decided to make the world pay for what has been done to him Because he was a molecular biologist, he is an apt scientist and he creates a plague that only affects women, the men being the carriers He releases this plague into three countries Ireland, England and Libya He asks the governements to bring every emigrant back in the country and to let the virus take its course, so they feel the way he felt when his family was killed Because they are on a search to find him, he goes to Ireland to hide He decides to get hired as a scientist in the project that is developed for counterattacking the virus he created, so he can sabbotage the results Unfortunatelly for him, he is already suspected to being the terrorist, and he is sent to Ireland in the company of a priest, a boy and an IRA bomber, the same one that detonated the bomb that killed his wife and children In the end, it s not just about how a man s mind goes mad because his family was taken away from him, it s also about how countries react to such a threat a plague that was created by man and released in the world without remorse What do they go then Do they exterminate every human being that is infected Do they wipe those countries off of the face of the world Or do they stay and do nothing Is this a casus belli Or is it not Of course, the book was written with Herbert s usual flawless techinique, making the reader enter a world of his own, but not his own entirely What if this could be true xoxo


  5. says:

    Molecular biologist John Roe O Neill is on vacation in Ireland when a bomb explodes and kills his wife and two children The trauma splits his personality and he splices genes into viruses and contaminates bacteria with them, creating a disease that targets women and speeds up their aging When he releases the bacteria in Ireland, England and Libya, the plague begins to spread around the world and governments have to close their border and expel these countries nationals And Barrier Command under Canadian Admiral Francois Delacourt seeks to isolate the plague by patrolling borders and controlling travel among countries As women begin to die off, the U.N gathers a group of scientists from the U.S., France and U.S.S.R to find a cure In the meantime, O Neill sneaks into Ireland as John O Donnell only to be captured by the IRA controlled government and tried for genocide The politicians of the U.S., England and Ireland manipulate one another to come up with the cure while trying to gain an upper hand Gene Splicing drawing by Agathman When the scientists, with the help of O Neill s insights, find a cure, they are able to spread the knowledge without allowing any government to gain an upper hand But with only one woman for every tens of thousands of men, women begin taking on than one husband And with greater knowledge about genetic engineering, scientists are able to assure female newborns But that knowledge also allows potential terrorists to engineer a plethora of deadly diseases Welcome to the brave new world as Frank Herbert imagined it South Kildare, IrelandThe novel is a thoughtful exploration of the abuse of genetic engineering and it consequences We do not read it for its science but the details of gene splicing, science and pseudo science, make the reading interesting and I prefer this to science fiction without the science The plague and the resulting apocalypse reveal the darkness of the human soul than the failings of science and Herbert s discourse on political machination among the U.N., the U.S., England and Ireland combined with the IRA s bombing and O Neill s vindictiveness reaffirms this theme And Kevin O Donnell and Herity are the epitomes of that darkness Frank HerbertHerbert s constant shift from one character s point of view to another s distracts from the story At times, there are multiple shifts in POV within a page We have trouble sympathizing with any single character though we dwell mostly in O Neill s mind and may be ambivalent about him, an innocent bystander turned into a mad scientist turned into a schizophrenic Perhaps the shifting points of view reflect the disintegrating world of the white plague and we aren t meant to focus on any single character or sympathize with him or her.


  6. says:

    This book was torture The only character that was somewhat likeable and had a developed personality died soon after her introduction the other characters were wholly unlikeable The story was long and tedious, like what I would expect a sci fi fan in a writing class to try and pass off as epic merely because they scribbled over a thousand pages I stuck with it because I try to complete most books and I wanted to see if it got better Here s where the spoilers are Now the worst part is yet to come This story about the near extinction of women has a few women, yet only two women in the story manage to get in with their perspectives on how the plague affects them Yes, we hear about the rapes of the surviving pockets of women, the sexual abuse of about 30 teens by one rich pedophiliac goat, and how certain countries at the end lend, say, one thousand of their breeding women to one another America was not so generous with its cattle female stock Most of the book follows a bunch of angry men who, despite all they claim to the contrary, don t even care about women, never mind their women When we do hear about deceased wives, it s always about how much they miss their knitting or some such old fashioned domestic crap The religious Father Michael will piss you off with his lack of feeling for the raped teenagers he cares mostly for their sinful souls and their entry into heaven, while I was grossed out that the army protected the old jerk raping them.The one woman who does figure most prominently is a silly nursing student who becomes some sort of Madonna Venus of Willendorf fertility fetish at the end Despite her nursing education, she takes zero interest in the plague What did they teach her at school All she does is bemoan her fate until the end when she begins to revel in her feminine power I recall that 1982 when The White Plague was written was still a sexist time, but I don t remember it being quite this 1950s.Apparently Finch and The Left Hand of Darkness handle gender issues a great deal thoughtfully.


  7. says:

    I give up I can t understand, who the author hated the most when writing this the Irish, the men, or the women Neither am I sure he has ever talked to a real live woman.


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    It took me a long time to finish this book, and I had a like hate relationship with it the entire time However, I think a huge part of the problem was a mismatch between what I wanted and expected the book to be and what Herbert actually wrote I don t mean that he failed to make good on his promises to the reader I mean that I had preconceived notions about how I thought the plot would be handled, based on reading a summary of the book elsewhere.The story is about a man who is in Ireland for research purposes he s a biologist scientist of some sort One day, his wife and children die in a terrorist attack that somehow involves the Irish, Great Britain and Libya The scientist, driven mad by this loss, designs a plague that kills only women and then distributes it to punish the people that took his woman from him.Now, here s what I expected, largely because I attended a women s college I wanted to see how women would be treated Would they be hidden away by resourceful men Don t worry, honey, I ll save you Would they be kept isolated, or sent away Would they have any agency at all In addition to that, I was just expecting an entirely different protagonist Perhaps the main characters would be a family that struggles through this time, when women are dropping like flies.Imagine my surprise to find that the main character of the novel is the scientist, the Madman Huh It s clear that Herbert is interested in psychology, because he spends a lot of time talking about the Madman s mind and portraying the Madman s own journey through Ireland after the plague has begun Ireland is hit the hardest See, I don t think that s a terrible idea It just isn t the story that I wanted to read So I spent the first half of the novel wishing for less of the scientist and of anything else If you were curious, there are very few women in the novel at all Two researchers and The One that Survived are the only ones I can remember The one who survived was preserved because her then boyfriend put her in a tank right when the plague broke out, in which they lived together for months We don t see much of this The little that Herbert writes about them portrays the woman as very petty, whiny, needy and testy Maybe I would feel that way if I were living in a tank, but the semi feminist side of me was banging its head reading this Another problem in my opinion was that the story was too distant from its circumstances It was certainly close to the Madman and that was good writing You really get into his head, and it s fascinating Now, the story starts with the terrorist attack that kills the wife and children Then it follows the Madman making the plague And then, once he s FINALLY perfected his virus, he distributes it.Cut to politicians in Washington DC The next 100 pages are about politicians and committees talking about the plague Talking about it Mentioning how women are dying left and right, mobs are breaking out everywhere, countries are racing to find cures first to gain power, etc Herbert goes to great lengths to impress upon the reader how BIG this thing is but the reader never SEES any of it It s all hear say through politicians, until Herbert turns his focus back to the Madman walking through Ireland Still, he s on the outskirts of most of the action.So, there are good and bad things about this book I was irked by the bad things so much that I almost didn t finish it However, I would still recommend the book to others, as long as they didn t have the same expectations I had.In summary, I thought it was too distant as it wrote around the action The unexpected focus on the Madman didn t match my expectations of some kind of feminist treatment I should ve known this wouldn t be feminist ish, after reading Under Pressure by Frank Herbert However, Herbert does a great job following the Madman and getting the reader to KNOW him There are two other characters who associate with the madmen who are interesting characters, too I wish one of them had gotten treatment, but I guess you can t write everything.Last note all pros and cons aside, I definitely think the book is about twice as long as it needs to be.


  9. says:

    Introduction to the novel would be something like this A brilliant American Irish scientists is driven mad when his wife dies as a result of IRA bomb attack So, he creates a virus that will kill all women on IrelandWill the virus spread There are a lot of fascinating themes in this novel and it functions great as a thriller as well The way that the history of the Irish is presented is just brilliant It is not a stereotypical view of the Irish He really goes into the dept, exploring frustrations that are born in a nation that has been tortured or colonized, that has known treason not an excuse for the colonized but most of the nations that have had problems with achieving independence are no strangers to treason from its own man, unity being a very important factor in preserving a nation Anyway, violence has a way of feeding on violence and I think that Herbert really captured this This quote from the man himself seems to go well with this theme of repeated violence The oppressed always learned from and copied the oppressor When the tables were turned, the stage was set for another round of revenge and violence roles reversed And reversed and reversed ad nauseam FRANK HERBERT, Chapterhouse DuneThe way the author makes bio terrorism look plausible is extremely upsetting Especially as I think it is true I mean that it is possible for one man to develop a virus that could end mankind The characterization of the man that does it in The White Plague is great, his descend into madness being so well described It is scary though, the fact that it is not impossible to create a virus that could be potentially devastating to human race Nature creates such viruses and man has recently come a long way in regards to imitating natural catastrophes actually, man has out staged natural catastrophes.On another note, novel presents an interesting questions in terms of what would the reduction of female population mean to mankind It seems to me that some SF writers entertain this idea that fewer women would mean that women would be better treated Heinlein and his novel Luna is a Harsh Mistress come to my mind as an example of this philosophy I actually disagree with this concept If you look at only countries where man outnumber women, you ll see that those are the countries where women have no access to medical care and where basically women have no rights In fact, in these countries women are considered to be the property of the man to the point that it is hard to even get a remote picture about their position Since it is a biological law that women should outnumber man, when they do not, you know there is something seriously wrong In this novel, this question about the relationship between female population and their position in society is not really answered though I have a feeling that the author thinks it could improve the power of women In this case I think Herbert attributes his feeling about women to entire mankind and that s not a very good way to make prognosis Seriously, if all man would be so eager to protect women, we d live in a different world It could even be said, if all women would be so eager to protect women, we d live in a different world, but I m getting distracted from the book I don t really know what else to say except that the novel is deeper then you could expect The action and the plot does not stop the writer from searching human soul and identity The novel is quite long yet it never gets boring or tiring That s Frank Herbert for you


  10. says:

    I expected better from Herbert What I liked The disease I liked that the invention and distribution of the disease was described as the investigators figured it out rather than as the Madman was doing it I liked the idea of the targeted disease The politics The way the different countries failed to come together in the face of a world wide catastrophe was plausible The turn against science while only briefly touched on, the way the angry masses turned on scientists was believable What I disliked Oh the draggery while all kinds of things were happening all over the world due to the plague, they really weren t described much I don t know how he managed to have a book be so long without going into detail on ANYTHING The end was just lame WooHoo There are now 5000 men for each woman so I ve completely lost all of the morality I was raised with and feel fine having several husbands and want my 12 year old daughter to start picking who she should breed with Whatever Maybe the social s would change in a generation or two, but not immediately This is my favorite genre, and Herbert I liked Herbert s other work, so I was disappointed in this one.


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